A Pair of Ditsons

By Mr. Joe Sustaire of Talihina, OK
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Re: A Pair of Ditsons

Post by JJ Donohue » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:16 pm

Joe...I just read your entire thread for the first time. Kudos on attempting such an experiment and comparative build. We've all learned a lot from your effort and excellent tutorial. You might want to contact John How and get his thoughts as well. He's a great guy and I know he'll be happy to help. Tell him I sent you.

So sit back and relax with the cool sound of your hard work and ponder your next masterpiece. Thanks for the education on these guitars!
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Re: A Pair of Ditsons

Post by Joe Sustaire » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:41 pm

Yeah, I bet you can Dennis!

And please guys, don't take this exuberance as a pronouncement of my greatness, it's just my excitement over a personal breakthrough in my own work. How they compare to other builders guitars, I don't know. That's one of my problems, I'm basically working in a vacuum here. One, I have never been a pro player, just a living room player, and I haven't had the opportunity to play any high-end guitars. I have had a few Gibsons over the years and have found them to be all over the place in sound quality. And the only hand built guitars I've ever played are my own, so I don't have much of a basis for comparison. That is why I started building, I couldn't afford to buy, the quality of guitars that I wanted. And from my first assembled stew-mac 000, they have been better than what I have played, given my limited experience.

I also have never played a Scott van Linge re-voiced guitar, so I have no idea whether I'm getting anywhere near what he is able to get from a guitar. But, I can say, I feel that by studying these descriptions of what Scott does, I have been given some tools to use, to bring my own guitars, to a level of performance that they sure weren't at before.

And that is why I am so enthusiastic,
Joe

Thanks JJ! I was writing this response as you were posting. This is one heck of a fulfilling interest we have here!
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Re: A Pair of Ditsons

Post by Joe Sustaire » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:26 am

Another little update, in case you don't remember this is the bridge I put on these.

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And here is a shot where one was coming up from a bad glue joint, but it shows the edge thickness.

And here is the bridge on the x brace now that I've done a Scott van Linge type alteration on it.

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As you can see, it is much sleeker now and less weighty. It was a small footprint bridge already, which I got from a tutorial by Hesh on making a bridge for small body guitars. So the idea is to lower bridge mass helping to increase the responsiveness of the top to string energy, and the low, flowing profile helps the bridge vibrations to flow into the top. At least that is the way I'm understanding it. :D

Does it work? I don't know, after I re-shaped the braces this guitar sounded much better already with great trebles, and I think the small footprint was a part of that, once I got the braces reduced so the top could work. Now we're getting into nuances of sound improvement, but it sure didn't hurt any, and it feels great to play. Certainly no hard corners here to irritate the picking hand.

Final call, I like the looks and feel, and will continue experimenting in this direction, following Scott's sleek designs and Hesh's stealth bridge designs.

Thanks guys,
Joe
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Re: A Pair of Ditsons

Post by Green Mountain Guitars » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:58 am

They look very nice Joe! :|

And where are the sound files? :|

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Re: A Pair of Ditsons

Post by Eben » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:38 pm

Nice Joe!

I'm with Glen - Me wanna hear!!

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Re: A Pair of Ditsons

Post by DaveAnderson » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:14 am

Great job on your twins Joe! And following your building and fixing your braces and bridge
was very interesting reading. Your bridge design is really nice! Thanks for all the time you put
into documenting these guitars. They look great ! I'm glad they sound so good. :D
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