X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

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X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Joe Sustaire » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:23 am

I just got this one finished and strung up, plays and sounds good.
Have been taking photos as I build so I want to share it here in the community.

It has a 13 1/4" lower bout and a 24 1/2" scale. It's inspired by the nice curvy shapes of the 20's and 30's.

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Here's the forward shifted x-brace.


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And this shows a nice and curvy side, bent on the propane heated pipe bender.



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Building on the building board.


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And this shows my creative recovery after finding the body was somewhat warped after removing from the building board. The neck block end was out of square for my neck angle. So I used a brace jack I'd built for repair, placed one end against the cross brace, took the block off the other end and screwed it to the neck block. Now I can dial in the angle I want and hold it until the back is on. Then it can be removed through the soundhole.

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Another shot before closing it up.


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Roping on the back.


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Walnut binding ready to go on.


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My first guitar with wood binding and rosette.


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Glued up mahogany neck blank.


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And shaping the neck with a super spokeshave courtesy of Eric.

And I think I better get this posted before I lose it.
Tomorrow you get to see the end result.

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Joe Sustaire » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:00 pm

Okay, we continue.

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Headstock is slotted and drilled, and we're gluing on the fretboard.


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Masked and receiving first coats of a tung oil finish.


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Check out those curves.

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New old-style tuners from stew-mac

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Got lucky with the pretty grain on the back of the headstock.

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And my label. That's one of my sculptures on the left. A self-portrait. A pair of my worn-out overalls made free-standing with fiber-glass resin, crow on my shoulder, standing on my soap-box. Title "Delusions of Grandeur", naturally I'm a legend in my own mind. Now I only have to convince everyone else! :lol:

Thanks for looking,
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by whitespruce » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:08 pm

WOW!! Joe, man looks like you are waaay down the road with knowin how to build these guys. That'aa mighty fine, mighty fine.

Whatcha gonna biuld next for us?

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by expatluthier » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:16 pm

Beautiful work, Joe! I didn't catch what kind of wood you were using for the back and sides. Looks like ribbon sapeli?
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by WaddyT » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:22 pm

Wow, Joe, that really looks great. Beautiful wood too. What did you say it was? :D

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Joe Sustaire » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:27 pm

Thanks Grant and Randy,

Praise from luthiers like you, I'll steal Randy's signature here, makes me feel like I pee'd myself! Warm all over.
It may be sapele Randy, it is some kind of mahogany type. I bought it a long time ago on ebay for cheap because the sides were warped. I fell for the line, "hey you're going to bend it anyway right?" It worked out good though. Should have marked down what it was, but you know, at the time you know what it is and can't imagine forgetting. :?

Thanks for the praise guys,
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Manuel » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:00 pm

Great work and beautiful guitar, I like very much.
Congratulation.

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Post by gilmoreguitars » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:24 pm

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That is awsome! How big is the soundhole? It looks large...
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by D_H_G GUITARS » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:00 pm

Joe very nice and you are a fast builder, We need sound files I wanna hear her sing!

Great job puting it all together!


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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Joe Sustaire » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:59 pm

Thanks Waddy, Manuel, David, and Hugh!

I can't tell you how great it is getting feedback from people you respect! Pretty neat feeling, sitting back in the woods in s.e. Oklahoma, and sharing, learning, and making friends with kindred spirits around the world. I would say this is pretty much what it's all about.

David the soundhole isn't that big, 3 3/4", but the waist is only 7 1/2", so I guess that's why it looks large. Does a good job of getting the sound out though.

Which leads to sound files. Hugh, I haven't got there yet in my computer skills, something I need to work on. I'm on a mac and that has garageband built in, just need to learn how to get from here to there.

Thanks for all the comments guys,
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Lefty » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:47 am

Joe,

What a great looking guitar. You did the wood good.

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Raymond » Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:03 am

Very nice Joe. I really like that rosette and the label is great.

Maybe after sleep deprived Dennis gets some rest he can show us both how to make a sound file and post it.

If I'm not mistaken isn't there a ladder brace following close behind? I really would like to hear the difference.

Did you mean fourth build this year??? Looks like a pro to me.

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Kim » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:19 am

Great work Joe, you smoked right through em, thanks for sharing.
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by expatluthier » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:33 pm

Joe said :
It may be sapele Randy, it is some kind of mahogany type
Yep...definitely ribbon Sapeli, then. Tone and workability wise, I can't tell any difference between sapeli and mahogany, but there again, since moving to China, all I can get is Sapeli and African Mahogany. I use the ribbon sapeli for my necks. I can get huge 2" thick slabs of it for a song from my ex-landlord (Veneer Factory).
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Joe Sustaire » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:45 pm

Thanks for the great comments guys!

Raymond the ladder braced is in my Ditson builds. I'm doing an x-braced and a ladder braced there to isolate the difference for my personal education. Hopefully will have an update there soon.

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Raymond » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:24 pm

Oops. Right builder, but wrong build. :oops:

You're cranking them out so fast I'm getting confused. ;)

Looking good.
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Eben » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:10 pm

How'd I miss this?

We already got enough threads that I'm missing cool stuff?

Sheesh!

Nice axe, Joe!

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Post by Dennis Leahy » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:31 pm

Joe,

Great looking guitar! Understated elegance. And, I love your label!

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Joe Sustaire » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:12 am

Thanks Eben and Dennis,

Good feedback drives me on! :D

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by ChuckH » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:39 am

Joe, that is one dandy little geetar. I love everything about it. Where would a guy get plans for a parlor?
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Joe Sustaire » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:57 pm

Glad you like it Chuck, I'm pretty pleased with it.
I don't know what plans are available, I just drew up a shape that I liked, inspired by those curves in the pinch-waisted curves of those guitars from the 20's and 30's, and then adapted kind of a standard x brace pattern since most parlors are ladder braced. Next time I will probably lighten up the bracing a bit. This was the first top I thicknessed with my drum sander and got a little carried away, If I remember right, it got down below 0.010" at it's thickest point. :D

I can make a drawing of the body shape and bracing for you if you want.

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Bilbert » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:51 pm

Really nice work, Joe!

As a parlor builder myself, I love to see others building these little beauties. You seem to have advanced very quickly, which is a
good kick-in-the-pants for me to spend more time in the shop!! :oops:

I wouldn't worry about a top thickness of .010 on a small bodied instrument like that - adequately braced, you shouldn't have any
problems, and it looks like you have a good-sized bridge plate on there.

How did you finish this one??

Bill

P.S. - I REALLY like your label!! - you seem to have a sense of humor kinda like mine - a bit sly and self-deprecating ;)
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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Joe Sustaire » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:07 pm

Thanks Bill, the top is sealed with shellac, and then I used a tung oil finish over the whole thing.

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Re: X-Braced Parlor, 4th build

Post by Erik » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:35 pm

NIce one Joe!!!

I'm just getting caught with everything that has been going on here. I'm glad you like the spokeshave. It looks like it turned out well for you. I'm also very fond of your label. A nice personal touch. Do you have a photo of the real resined up dungarees you could show?

And how did it end up sounding compared to your ladder brace cousins, the guitar that is not the dungarees?

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